Thursday, February 19, 2009

WSAR Spin - Rent Control ?!

According to WSAR/Mike Herren today (listen here) the 64 Durfee Building is not going to be subsidized housing, it is rent controlled housing, which is absolutely false. A few points on this:
  1. Rent Control in Massachusetts was ended by a 1994 statewide referendum. (Although cities may pass by-laws allowing it as in the case of Lakeville where the General court finds that, a serious public emergency exists with respect to the housing of a substantial number of citizens in the which emergency has been created by excessive, abnormally high and unwarranted rental increases imposed by some owners of manufactured housing communities)
  2. Even if we had rent control in Fall River, the construct of rent control limits the amount rent is allowed to be raised as opposed to the 64 Durfee plan by Peabody which has Peabody taking low income tax credits because they will be housing government subsidized residents.

That being said do we need more subsidized housing? If so, does it need to be at 64 Durfee? Are we willing to throw away the only available nexus between downtown and the waterfront by turning it into low income housing for $200,000?

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Update for Anon 22:04


78 comments:

Tom Paine said...

Herren continues to try and protect Correia. It is simply amazing that anybody would try to protect the biggest liar the 6th floor has ever had.

Remember back in 2002 when Correia said we have too much affordable housing, now he is pushing for more affordable housing.

Back in 2002 he said that it is wrong to have people in low income housing living one on top of each other. Now he wants to have people living in low income housing live one on top of each other at 64 Durfee st.

We cannot allow 64 Durfee st to move forward. This project must be tabled. At the least a new RFP has to be written.

But before anything else happens Correia, if he was a true leader, would take Almeida off the RD just for knocking down the city.

As far as the Hurricane, I do not listen to him, and from you posted I am glad that I do not listen to him. He does not seem to know what he is talking about.

Anonymous said...

He said it was a formula like rent control which protected people who fell between sec 8 certified and up to 40,ooo for a family with 1 child..Try not to be so literal and please dont distort the arguement he was making..Cathy Ann should clearly have more info at her ready and seeing she is championing this issue i thought the debate was good even though she showed up unannounced and was given 1+ hour of commercial free air to share her posistion..without Hurricane being able to prepare..it was good radio amd for all of the conspiracy freaks nobody can say the debate was stymied..one person said he was in Karams pocket and he let the guy continue to go at him..Cathy Ann has had her shot and done her research i am looking forward to Hurricanes turn.

Anonymous said...

I no longer listen to wsar are but it sounds like once again they get in on the issue at the last minute that is why he was not prepared. Also were they admitting that the result of the vote is pre-determined ??

The Hurricane said...

The issue if i am not mistaking was about Cathy Ann insinuating that Carol Fiolas integrity was for sale and Ed Fish bought it.Cathy Ann apologized and said Fiola had the up most of integrity .Talk about a flipflopper.

Anonymous said...

Mikey,

A person with integrity would recuse themselves from the process if there was even the appearance of impropriety. Ken Fiola didn't recuse himself, he didn't even mention it, he just went about business and tried to pass it by. This is not the first developer that gives money to Fiola and then all of a sudden gets special treatment.

We need to get rid of this garbage in Fall River.

And by the way Mikey, you called it Rent Control like 100 times. It isn't rent control, it is subsidized housing. Stop the lies, and spin.

Anonymous said...

Funny, I don't recall the Hurricane calling Councilor Viveiros a "flipflopper" while she was in the studio.

The guy had a tirade for 30 minutes, and when she arrived at the studio he claims he was unprepared for her appearance and that she "hijacked" his show.

Hurricane, the issue was this... Ken Fiola conducted the analysis of the RFPs. Ken Fiola, as Treasurer of his wife's campaign, accepted campaign contributions for the same developer whose bid he was responsible to analyze.

Yes, I know EA Fish donates to a lot of politicians across the state, but he donated to BOTH Mayor Correia AND the spouse of the RFP Evaluator during the relevant time of the RFP proposals.

If you think that everything is okay with the preceding paragraph then you have a low ethical standard.

Anonymous said...

Yeah Cathy Anne should have stuck with both fiolas integrity being for sale she was right on if I;m not mistaking.

Anonymous said...

They should have a silent auction to sell off political votes in this town. NO maybe a White Elephant!

Anonymous said...

Hurricane, can you say (and understand) "utmost"? DUH

Anonymous said...

PS. "Mistaken" vs. "mistaking," as well; never mind your punctuation. And you received a high school diploma from where????

Anonymous said...

Durfee

Anonymous said...

Hurricane----ika Mikey: mass communications, whether it be written or verbal, is not your forte'. However, you are
all WSAR can afford.

You treated Councillor Viveiros with the utmost of disgrace on the air this pm. Yet, she blew you away, with grace and ease.

PS. Google "forte'" for an easy to understand definition.

Anonymous said...

hurricane: you said over and over that corriea or carol fiola would never sell themselfs for 500 dollars. it was alot more than 500 dollars that was just the last donation. which by the way came just before the decision by kenny. you were spinning so bad i was getting dizzy listening to the radio

The Hurricane said...

Are you people serious?How many Hurricane sightings on these blogs? As many as Big Foot or The Loc ness monster.Do you think he will post here on a Thursday Night when the Celtics are on national tv ?You people obviously dont know him.Hurricanes at St Mikes with some old friends watching the game.LOL LOL

Anonymous said...

Did you mean to post that anonymously and not under your google account?

W.J. Bloggah said...

Oh Snap! Hurricaine busted by Anon 00:46!!! HAHAHA, Hurricaine, you loser!!!

The Hurricane said...

The joke will be on all of you tomorrow tune in WSAR14803-6.The rat will always take the cheese .. THATS THE CLUE ...How can one man be everywhere but nowhere??? THATS THE QUESTION

Anonymous said...

Where is the Hurricane???

Anonymous said...

BREAKING NEWS>>HURRICANE IS ARRESTED AND IS IN JAIL>>BIG BRAWL IN THE FLINT

Anonymous said...

mikey will probably be out sick again...like he was the past 2 monday holidays...coincidence? cathy ann did a great job despite the foolish badgering from michael.when will the karams realize that bossclown,michael,boo boo,and jimmy are going down fast and hard.boo boo will be saying "boo hoo" real soon. fall riverites are smarter than the clan thinks...won't see you in september!!!!

Anonymous said...

is this for real??? was he finally caught???

Anonymous said...

Hurricane -

"The rat will always take the cheese" Correia is going to be a guest on your show today?

Anonymous said...

If a political donation gives the appearance of a conflict of interest it should not be accepted. Were any of these political contributions received when Fish was actively pursuing RA property in Fall River?

shamrock said...

Yes they most certainly were

Anonymous said...

It is more than just an unconfirmed "herren sighting" when someone, using his arguably secret password, is logged into Herren's registered account. It may be assumed that it is the party to whom the account belongs. My theory is that he didn't mean to call Cathy Ann a flipflopper under his long-time registered google name "The Hurricane" and subsequently tried to cover it up by making up alibis fpr himself(what was that about?!).

Anyhooo, I look forward to listening to him talk about the whack job bloggas and how they fell for his elaborate rouse where he had someone ELSE logged into his google account saying unpleasant things about Cathy Ann.

If this is the case, congrats, you have tricked people by fraud....we are no match for you, but I guess you learn from the best.

Anonymous said...

Hurricane,

When Hillary Clinton was chosen to be Secretary of State, some people were concerned that donors to Bill's Global Initiative may perceive that by donating to Bill's foundation could create access or favoratism to the Secretary of State.

Similarly, the same concept applies when a bidder donates to the spouse of the person charged with the responsibility to assess the RFPs.

Anonymous said...

Don't forget the claims that she also took contributions from judicial candidates.

Anonymous said...

The Hillary analogy is ok. But, Bill Clinton is not Hillary's treasurer. Kenny Fiola is Carole Fiola's treasurer.

Does the picture look clearer to you now?

Anonymous said...

Herren, what a blog whore. What? Can't measure up with the bar flies? So sad.

Anonymous said...

Carol was GM at Wsar and Marketing at the FROED before her husband got that cushy job do you think WSAR/Karam is not going to defend the fiolas? How many favors do you think have been granted over the years?

Anonymous said...

you people are on the hurricanes nuts. if he didnt have a radio show what would you guys do?

Anonymous said...

You're right, we would have a lot less correcting to do. But the Mayor and City Council seem to keep us pretty busy too. Not to mention the wsar slantatorials.

Anonymous said...

Someone that listens told me he claimed cathy annd "hijacked" his show- hmm where did he get that blog terminology?! Also Fiola called in and will be on the show monday so start dialing and get on hold now you will never get to ask him a question!blah blah blah

Anonymous said...

Cathy Ann may have been right on about integrity, but is she the pot or the kettle?

Anonymous said...

Let ma get this right.everyone on this site has one problem or another with the Hurricane yet they still listen.What does that tell you ?

Anonymous said...

That you didn't read my comment beginning with

someone that listens told me.....

W.J. Bloggah said...

I hope there really was a brawl and that he's in jail. Then maybe he'll get shanked out in the shower and we won't have to put up with his assininity around here and focus on real issues.

and no, I don't listen to the Hurricaine because 1)I actually have a job and work during those hours & 2)the few snippets I have heard here on the blogs are extremely difficult to listen to, why would I want to put myself through that. I'd rather listen to static for 3 hours everyday.

...you're still a loser...

Anonymous said...

herren, what a loser. no job no where to live. When i knew him he crashed out on peoples sofas untill they threw him out. i feel bad for his kid

Anonymous said...

He is probably waiting for a "rent controlled" unit at 64 Durfee

Anonymous said...

well seeing that he lives in a house i dont know if he is going from sofa to sofa.

w.j. bloggah

so if i am a teacher that gets out of work at 3:00pm and listen to the hurricane after work, does that mean my listening ability is associated with me not having a job?

i feel bad for you if you have to work until 6 that stinks

Anonymous said...

Makes you wonder who his real daddy is.

Anonymous said...

herren is a parasite he lives off whoever he can so he lives in a house now. he just bleeds his father

Anonymous said...

Mr know it all Shamrock..rent control is alive and well in massachusetts infact they have it in Lakeville.

Anonymous said...

Hurricane has two radio shows !How can you say he doesnt have a job?? As far as sleeping on peoples maybe they werec sleeping on Hurricanes.

shamrock said...

My apologies, you are correct, good researching. Lakeville, in response to an emergency housing issue (as they stated) adopted a "MANUFACTURED HOUSING COMMUNITIES
RENT CONTROL BY-LAW" 2 1/2 months ago. http://www.lakevillema.org/12-8-08.pdf

Is there such an emergency here? If so, we would need to pass a law to allow rent control in Fall River.

Anonymous said...

HURRICANE thi and HURRICANE that he is dominating content on your blog and Krods and you call him a loser yeah right ..his show today had the mayor apologizing to the union rep and had over 100 calls in the last hour with peop[le laughing hysterically ..Now tell me who is winning ...its eaasy its the Hurricane

shamrock said...

When did I call Herren a loser? Refresh my memory.

shamrock said...

Anon 18:11,
I corrected myself, thank you.

Anonymous said...

Hurricane lives off is father... yeah right! His father could make a corpse look like a hard worker.

You all have short memories said...

Rent control is illegal in Massachusetts. There are some limited exceptions (read below)

Ahem, question 9 from 1994, which passed:

This proposed law would prohibit rent control for most privately owned housing units in Massachusetts, and would nullify certain existing rent control laws, except that cities and towns would be authorized to adopt a restricted form of rent control for a six month period, after which compliance by property owners would be voluntary.

The proposed law would prohibit any city or town from enacting, maintaining or enforcing any law that requires below-market rents for residential properties. It would also prohibit the regulation of occupancy, services, evictions, condominium conversion, or the removal of the unit from rent control, if such regulation was part of a system requiring below-market rents. Existing state and local rent control laws would be nullified. The proposed law would not affect publicly owned or subsidized housing, federally assisted housing, or mobile homes.

Cities and towns would be authorized to adopt rent control for a six-month period on housing units that have a fair market rent of $400 or less and that are owned by a person or entity owning ten or more rental units. Such rent control could not include the regulation of occupancy, services, evictions, condominium conversion, or the removal of the unit from rent control. The city or town would have to pay the owners of rent-controlled units the difference between the controlled rent and the fair market rent. After six months, owners of rent-controlled units would not be required to comply with the rent control regulation or with any other such regulation that the city or town might adopt in the future.

The proposed law would take effect on January 1, 1995. The proposed law states that if any of its provisions were declared invalid, the other provisions would remain in effect.

Anonymous said...

I listened to that clip and it is the reason I don't listen to that station anymore. It's not a "rent control" project or proposal. Period! How ill-informed can one person actually be? Do zero research and just throw a bunch of crap out there and see what sticks. That seems to be the show in a nutshell.

Anonymous said...

exactly what a loser to live off al but he does

Reality Check said...

Check out this article in today's Boston Herald. More proof they cannnot be trusted and we need to hold off.

http://bostonherald.com/business/general/view.bg?articleid=1153600

Anonymous said...

Shamrock would you talk like that to the Hurricane if you were man to man its easy to talk tough from behind a screen.You people are not satisfied talking about him but to bring his daughter and his brother and his father into the mix that is bullshit!! How would you handle people disrespecting your family ??How would any male handle it? I dont know what neighborhood you are from but family is always off limits in mine.You are on dangerous ground my friend..i cant believe Hurricane lets you get away with this my boy must be getting soft.Mr Herren was my social worker for ceta before he was state rep he is a good man who has helped alot of people.Why do you let these nasty personal atttacks happen on your blog.It wasnt like this before.

Anonymous said...

So Sutter says nothing wrong with how Amari Walker spent corporate donations for a program in fr schools. Herald News will buy that because Lisa Strattans b/f rund SMILES a corpotate donation funded program in the fr schools

Anonymous said...

Anon 16:32 hididng behind the screen right? Hmm, I thought Shamrock was a woman if so is should she "on dangerous ground my friend..i cant believe Hurricane lets you get away with this my boy must be getting soft." ???????

Anonymous said...

sutter should be the last person questioning anyones morals. he is a joke as well

Anonymous said...

lisa strattan's last name used to be hyphenated. before the hyphen it was just Herren...they related? Especially after how he's been blasting the herald news lately

shamrock said...

ANON 16:32

It is nice to hear that Al Herren helped you through a tough time. I am grateful for that as it sounds like you are.

Anonymous said...

she was his step mother.

Anonymous said...

Yeah Shamrock, "Why you be dissing his boy Hurricane?" Um, reality called and you didn't answer. He wanted to tell you though that life isn't a hip hop video.

Tom Paine said...

When it comes right down to it, we have been lied to in this city.

Think about it, Nick Christ was on a committee in 2000 that said we have too much affordable housing. Now he is pushing for more affordable housing at 64 Durfee St. He has strong connections to Correia and Fiola. Both he and his wife donated heavily to both candidates. Yes, I know that is nothing that is illegal, but it is a connection.

Then we have Ken Fiola, whose office of Economic Development, paid for a study back in 2000 that stated we have too much affordable housing. Now he wants more affordable housing at 64 Durfee St. His wife has received a great deal of donations from developers. Illegal? No, not at all, but again a connection.

Bobby Correia, the rep that was called a champion for the city because he stood up against affordable housing. He too said we had too much affordable housing. Now he wants more affordable housing at 64 Durfee St. He too has received a great deal of money from developers involved. Again, totally legal.

But all this has to make you wonder why 3 high profile men, all who said we had too much affordable housing, would be pushing for more affordable housing??

Plus to locate this affordable housing in the downtown area.

Remember, Correia wanted to create at least 60 units at the Watuppa site with 20 units offsite, again affordable housing. This he was pushing for after saying to the Fall River public that he was going to build 26 single family units there. MMM???

PLus, Charlotte Despard and other have been showing the questionable dealings of the Fish developers.

Where there is smoke, there is usually fire.

Anonymous said...

tom paine

in 9 years things change. in 2000 cnn said the world was going to end, should we hold them accountable for that?

Anonymous said...

Anon,


Things do change but there is a pattern of deceipt here it is only the beginning of the truth coming out.

Charlotte

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Anonymous said...

the pattern of deceit is coming up only on websites like this. the herald news would be all over this. you people are freaks that need to realize not everything is a conspiracy.

Anonymous said...

It's not the herald news you should be worried about it is being linked to other cases of
ethics violations when they are investigated and your name comes up.

I wonder why you would be watching what is posted on blogs like this if it didn't matter?

Tom Paine said...

Sorry, I do not buy that this is a change of heart for Correia. He is a liar. He lied about his LNG bill and now he lied about affordable housing. The only reason he and Fiola are pushing for more affordable housing now is that his big support, the people at Peabody Construction are behind it.

Anonymous said...

Despite the new contention (by Nick Christ I believe) that a Peabody project would house firemen and police officers, Correia has twice, publicly, said this is going to be senior housing. Is he showing his hand?

Anonymous said...

Where did Nick Christ come up with that one - did he survey the fire and police unions does he have a purchase and sale or rental agreement- cmon ???????

Anonymous said...

the only way the firefighters and police will be able to afford to live here after they get laid off is to go on section 8, aka "affordable housing"! real nice, right?

Anonymous said...

Well with Correia's plan to layoff 33-38 police officers on March 3 maybe they can live in this low income housing. Hell with the way this Mayor is running our city into the ground we will all be living in low income housing! That's all that will be left!

Anonymous said...

Just listened to the latest WSAR "infotorial". If forensic investigators checked the knees of Mayor Correia's pants, they'd find carpet fibers from WSAR.

shamrock said...

lol awesome

Anonymous said...

do you people not understand that we are in a financial crisis. the mayor is being told to cut back in things. either way he is going to offend certain people. cities as big as fall river all over the commonwealth are cutting back on law officials as well. we are going to have to buckle down and deal with what is ahead, or we can keep complaining, have fear set in and run away from our problems which will benefit nobody in the long run.

oh yeah the knees joke was hilarious too. i think ive heard something like that at every high school event ive ever been at. you need to get better jokes than that you people are sad.

shamrock said...

Wow, that is weird timing because you are talking about the mayor having to make cuts and I am reading in the Herald News about a friend of the mayor's that just got a nice raise.

Anonymous said...

Where is the Fall River City Council? We have members who are thinking about running for Mayor and they have not commented on this plan being propsed by the Mayor. We are adding fat to the budget no reduced it!

shamrock said...

Anon - do you mean the 64 durfee plan or the budget plan. As far as I know there isn't a new budget cut plan yet.

Both Cathy Ann and Steve Camara have been at the forefront of the Durfee issue. Councilor Hague has played a role as well.

I read in the Herald News last week that Cathy Ann submitted her own budget proposal and I believe at a recent city council meeting Steve Camara voiced his as well.