City council candidate Chris Marcelino plugged his blog on my my last post. So I went to read what he had to say. Overall I was surprised at how well written it was.....a little too well written. In one blog post, he typed, "Don't be shy about calling the candidates and asking tough questions of your own." So here is my tough question: Who wrote your blog? Was it 2004 candidate for Tulsa city council, Michael Bates?
I took a particularly well written bit of the blog post and googled it. Here is the #1 result for the excerpt from Marcelino's blog "complexities of the law, and an awareness of the risks and potential rewards of a change. The Law of Unintended Consequences is in full effect." Marcelino basically cut and paste the manifesto of a Tulsa candidate, put it on his own blog, and signed it.
He even plagiarized why he is running for city council! If you can't come up with your own reason for running....maybe you shouldn't be running.
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UPDATE:
Chris Marcelino has now rightfully credited Michael Bates for Bates' work that Marcelino plagiarized. However, I have the original version and I think it is important information to have when you go vote.
Compare what Michael Bates wrote in 2004 to the original of what Marcelino wrote:
Fall River City Council, No easy Task.
Why run for City Council?Most people who hear I'm running for city council congratulate me, or thank me for my willingness to serve. Others -- close friends, mostly -- ask, "Why in the world would you want to be a city councilor? Do you need the aggravation? Why do you want to join that useless, bickering bunch?"
My answer: I want to be a city councilor because the city council matters to our city's quality of life and its future. I am running because I believe that with my skills, knowledge, and experience I can promote Fall Rivers quality of life, and I can help the council become more effective in doing its job, to the benefit of all its citizens.
Some would say that the city council was created as mere window-dressing, a means to avoid a civil rights lawsuit. The real power rests in the Mayor's office, they would say, and the council isn't meant to do much besides act as a rubber-stamp. Many voters may be tempted to give all their attention to the next mayoral race, while ignoring the candidates for city council.
The Council matters
But when you've gone down to City Hall for committee meetings and city council meetings, as I have, and talked to councilors and citizens who come to address the council on some matter, you realize that the city council has an impact on Fall River's quality of life, and it has the potential to become an even greater asset to the city.The council performs three crucial functions that no other body can perform: representation, legislation, and oversight. If it fails to fill these roles adequately, Fall River loses.
Representing Fall River's diversity
The nine city councilors bring nine more perspectives to the table. More than that, in the course of an election, a city councilor speaks to thousands of citizens and hears their concerns and ideas. The new Mayor would be wise to look to the councilors as valuable partners in city government, not rivals.
By speaking for his constituents' interests, a city councilor bridges the gap between City Hall and the parts of the city that feel disenfranchised. A city councilor helps ensure that Fall River's diversity is represented throughout city government, by taking an active role in setting city priorities, ensuring that our plans for the future will benefit each an every Fall River citizen.A city councilor must remember that he is there to represent every citizens interests at City Hall. He is not an ambassador from City Hall to the citizens.
Setting the rules
The city council is not only a representative body, it is a law-making body. The council enacts rules which affect the quality of life in our neighborhoods.
The council frequently deals with zoning and land-use laws: changing the zoning on an individual piece of land, revising the Comprehensive Plan for an area, or general reform of the zoning laws.
A councilor needs to have a grasp of the complexities of the law, and an awareness of the risks and potential rewards of a change. The Law of Unintended Consequences is in full effect, and a bad decision can undermine years of hard work and thousands of dollars that homeowners and business owners have invested in their properties. A councilor must also be able to think "outside the box" -- willing to consider creative solutions to reach a win-win outcome for all concerned.
As a legislator, and not an executive, a councilor cannot act alone. A councilor must be able to build a professional relationship with his fellow councilors to reach the needed majority to pass an ordinance. To get things done for his city, a councilor must also be able to build support for his proposals in the community.
Keeping watch
Although the mayor is responsible for day-to-day operations, we need the city council to oversee the performance of city departments, to ensure that our essential city services are delivered efficiently and with excellence. To do its job, the council needs clear, complete information about expenditures and outcomes from every branch of city government. This same information needs to be made accessible to the public on the Internet.
To fulfill its oversight and legislative responsibilities, the council needs the independent resources and freedom of action to research issues and to evaluate the information it receives from the city administration. If we want a excellent, efficient government.From time to time, exercising effective oversight means saying "no." A good council will cooperate with the mayor whenever possible, but some plans are wrong for Fall River, and the council needs the guts to send them back to the drawing board.
How to build a better Council
More progress needs to be made. In this election, who ever is elected to the council will greatly affect the council's ability to fulfill its responsibilities.As a voter in this election, get to know the candidates running for city council.
Ask questions!!!
Will the candidate be an effective advocate for your neighborhood's particular needs?
Does the candidate have the intelligence and experience to handle zoning and other legislative issues?
Is the candidate committed to a city council which asks tough questions and demands answers, a city council with the confidence to say "no" when it should?
Don't be shy about calling the candidates and asking tough questions of your own.
If you find a good candidate, vote for him, of course, but find other ways to help, too. Display a yard sign, publicly endorse him.
Your time and effort will be repaid with a city council that is ready to build a better Fall River for all of us.
Usually during election time we see signs stating integrity, experience, qualified, etc., realizing that the candidates can only put favorable characteristics on their ads. I mean, who would advertise negatives, like "I'm dishonest, can't be trusted, a scoundrel, but vote for me anyway"? The only way we can get to know the real candidate, their attitudes, viewpoints, and prejudices too, is to ask the hard questions, and then wait for the answers. Voters should be able to hold their feet to the fire. We deserve a high caliber of elected officials, and we need to do a better job vetting them out.
When you ask candidates questions of great concern to you? If you get the deer in the headlights look, maybe that candidate doesn't know what's going on. And if the candidate tries to spin the answer, then don't let them get away with it, and ask it again, maybe this time with a different inflection.
Here's your chance to (1) elect a candidate that is going to represent you and (2) exercise a valuable right, the right to vote, so be prepared. The future of Fall River is largely influenced by the attitudes and actions of the city council. No easy task, so let's not treat it as if it is just another election. You can make a difference.
Sincerely,
Christopher Marcelino
Candidate for Fall River City Council.
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OOOOOHHHHH Snap!!! Busted!!!! Stealing someone's else's ideas to pass off as his own? This guy should go far in Fall River Government! He'll fit right in with the other liars and theives....
First and foremost, I would like to say that the blog that was posted was for information purposes. I read that letter and felt that it was very interesting. Therefore, I felt it was something that most people should know about when it comes to voting. If you noticed my first post about what I believe in before I submitted the post in question, that is what I stand for. Remember that I report true facts on my show and that was the intent of that blog. I must say that you are a very intelligent person and that's what this city needs more of. Honesty, open mindedness, synergy, and out of the box thinking. In closing I, as an honest person will say that yes this post was for informational purposes and not meant to plagiarize anyone.
FRC, if you look back at my blog you will see that the information is in better order...
If that was the case you really should have referenced where it came from.
It was well written, good to know that he stole it but didn't Bob Correia do that in the last election and it got him elected?
As well written as the plagiarism was, using words like synergy and outside the box doesn't get you my vote, I didn't hear one solution or ounce of substance in that entire speech. I guess I am going to have to wait for Miozza or Poulin or even Kilby to unveil their platforms for Council, those are probably the only ones who will be able to actually answer the question, "What do you want to do if you get elected to the Council?" I understand that you can't do it alone but tell me what you are going to try. Ask any City Council candidate that question and see how bad it stumps them. As much as I get excited about new candidates for Council I have asked several that exact question and a blank look appears on their face, they start sweating or they stumble, stammer and spin. I have no plans to replace the old hacks with new ones. Sorry guys and gals. The Berubes, Boulays and Bartleys of the world I might like you so far but I need to hear quite a bit more. Keep doing what you are doing and maybe you will get a thousand votes. You just want to see your name on the ballot or you actually want to win?
Saying that the post was for "informational purposes" does not justify that the post was plagiarized and continues to be a plagiarized post.
The post is NOT in better order.
http://bristolcountynews.blogspot.com/2009/05/liitle-more-info.html
This post as I have stated again is what I believe that will work for the city. The hardest thing that I will have to do as a new candidate is for constituents to get to know me....I will put most of my shows that have aired, and put them on youtube. But believe me, that I am very aware of what is going on in the city and care very much for it. For me to just sit at my computer all day is not a proactive way to find answers for issues that are concerning citizens now. If their are questions to be asked, I will gladly answer them. I am available most of the time. I am still working on a website for my campaign. Lets not forget, that a leader is only as good as he makes himself. Leaders are not made they are self made. The internet is the source to reach a percentage of people....the most respectful way to speak to someone is still face to face. How can you tell that someone means what he or she says, look them in the eye.
Using words like "synergy" and "outside the box," without addressing the real issues reminds me of Barney Stinson's video resume
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WDmEZP9Czg
Chris,
The most recent post to your blog is unbearably vague.
"Jobs, public safety, economic development, quality of life, education, restructuring the city council and the city's government."
What are you going to do on those issues?
"We need to harmonize the city by getting to the root of issues, getting rid of the weeds and thorns."
I have no idea what that even means.
"We need to look at well thought out plans for the city's future. "
Are there existing well-thought out plans that are not being looked at?
Are you just going to look at the plans? Are you going to implement these plans? How are you going to implement them?
"I pledge to be a trusted servant, remembering that my primary purpose is to address, correct and proactively look for a vision to resolve the city's current crisis. "
How can I trust you when you straight up PLAGIARIZED why you are even a candidate for City Council?
COMPARE:
My answer: I want to be District 4's City Councilor because the City Council matters to our City's quality of life and its future. I am running because I believe that with my skills, knowledge, and experience I can promote Midtown's quality of life, and I can help the Council become more effective in doing its job, to the benefit of all Tulsans.
My answer: I want to be a city councilor because the city council matters to our city's quality of life and its future. I am running because I believe that with my skills, knowledge, and experience I can promote Fall Rivers quality of life, and I can help the council become more effective in doing its job, to the benefit of all its citizens.
Ok well lets start by addressing one great issue. Jobs..... One thought out plan that I am thinking of is bring jobs to the city for the majority of the unemployed. Who are they? The hard working g people of this city with little to moderate education. These are your factory workers. Most if not all are baby boomers. Even though they are involved in programs that allow them to at least get their GED, this will get them nowhere with the type of jobs this city presently provides. If you have seen lately WAL-MART has been battling Swansea for quite sometime now. Why hasn't the council or FROED or RDA called them. We have the perfect place for that type of Superstore at WAL-MARTS present location. The Harbour Mall is a sore eye. Most of those store could be moved across the way at the Shopping center where National warehouse used to be.
The courthouse was a big mistake, The old South Main Place could have been used as a food court for all types of Fall River's cultural cuisine's.
All of those store fronts could have been used as a walk strip mall.
This courthouse destroyed that.
You see the first thing we need to do as a city is to start believing in ourselves. For so many years, our morale has been quite like our main attraction, The Great Mount Trashmore. Our citizens need to star believing in themselves. Unfortunately leadership effects any uplifting to ones personal drive that makes them get up and fight.
Again I ask you to watch my show on public access, or catch it on youtube.
Again I must say, I can write here all day long. That isn't an effective way to get my message across.
Holding numerous times for my campaign isn't either.
I need to be out in the city, telling people who I am and listen to what they have to say. How can someone vote for a person if they can't even look them in the eye.
and of course the sterile snooze never caught this
So, your solution for jobs is to make Walmart a Super Walmart?
Wow.
When you are out in the city telling people who you are, are you really telling them who you are, or are you just reciting something you Googled that sounded good?
Chris, you know that at least one of your opponents has already read this thread and once the campaign season really gets going, you will be rightfully labeled as the candidate who plagiarized his reasons for even running for the City Council.
There will be dozens of lackluster candidates for City Council and only a handful of good candidates. Consider yourself in the first category.
I just can't see how I could ever vote for a candidate who so blatantly plagiarized his reason for running for office. I have seen plagiarism in platforms before, but never for the reason a candidate is running for office.
Chris,
I see that you have edited your blog. I just want to point out the original version included your name at the bottom and the designation that you are a candidate for City Council.
You ripped off another candidate and basically replaced "Tulsa" with "Fall River."
I saved the original version.
http://www.youtube.com/user/venum254
Here is the latest show besides the one airing....watch me and make your judgment on what I say....again still early to early in the race....I will be disseminating much more information as the time comes.
Again if you really just stop for a minute and listen you might find what your looking for.
It is great to see that many people love to attack....that's a great sign of passion and that's what we need.....I welcome all sorts of criticism good and bad but I look at them constructively.
Wal mart is just one of many solutions. There are so many others.....I do have a vision and a plan.put I will not spend my time on the blogs...I will be speaking to people face to face.
If you won't be spending your time on the blogs then what are you doing here? What if someone asks you face to face what your plans on for the city and what you will try to do as a City Councilor? If you can't answer that question here then you won't be able to answer it face to face. As one commenter said you will be among those sweating, stammering and stuttering trying to give an answer. Luckily for you if you throw out enough words and phrases like synergy and outside the box it will be enough to fool some people. Anyone that can't answer a simple question isn't fooling me though and hopefully won't be fooling many others. Add to that, that you have already attempted to lie and deceive and your goose is cooked. Your campaign is over before it even started.
*what your plans are for the city and what you will try to do as a city councilor
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adThu1T4qEM&feature=channel
Yes, don't miss Chris' now classic interview with Pat Casey where he asks her what part of the city she represents and she has to tell him that city councilors are elected citywide/at large. If Pat Casey has to correct you that's pretty bad. If you are running for council and you don't know that you are running citywide that is bad too, lol.
Chris,
If you had to plagiarize why you are running for City Council, why should I even bother to listen to anything more you have to say?
"What's the deal with that Quequechan River, does anyone know about this or is anything being done," lol. "I'm going to get that Maplewood Neighborhood Society on my show and find out what they are about." Yup those are some classic quotes there Chris. Are you even from the city because it doesn't seem like you know much about it unless you have been asleep or living under a rock for the last decade or more.
I love the way he let Pat Casey off the hook in segment 2, that's just what we need on our council is a Pat Casey apologist. She didn't need to research her own resolution because there are others on the council that could've done her research for her, she has no responsibility at all even though it was her resolution. Nice premise Chris, lol. Casey should erect a monument for you after bailing her out with that one.
Yes, I thoroughly enjoyed how on Segment 3 of the May 11 show, Pat Casey was called out for not appearing on her show when she has been the only City Councilor to appear on his show.
Why would a City Councilor go on the show of someone else who is running for City Council?
This seems like a very obvious way to either trap a City Councilor and make them look foolish (not that it is very hard) or to say that the City Councilor is afraid to go on the show when they decline.
Thirty minutes of informal chit chat regarding swine flu is not news.
Also, a WSAR personality thought that they were breaking the story of the cooling towers in Somerset, then it was brought to the attention of everyone that the Herald News ran a story a year earlier.
Chris wrote earlier about getting to the roots of the issues and getting rid of the weeds and thorns.
How about we start with getting rid of the fertilizer!
I think that its a pretty good idea to say, keep watching my show and you will see who is lined up. There are a few candidates for mayor scheduled and other councilors.
One correction I must make to one of the most anonymous posts May 11ths show was not pat casey look at the bristol county news channel and you will see other important interviews. Please as I respect all of you voicing your opinions doesn't it say something that when you post anonymously you really aren't showing your credibility.
God Speed!!!!!
For Christ's sake, I did not say that Pat Casey was on the May 11 show, what I said was that Pat Casey was called out during Segment 3 of the May 11 show.
Starting at 5:30 of Segment 3, but specifically at 5:42.
This takes the cake though. The candidate who plagiarized his reasons for running for office is now questioning the credibility of anonymous commentors!!!
Again I ask, if you had to plagiarize why you are running for City Council, why should I even bother to listen to anything more you have to say?
This is the FIRST sentence from a write up in Saturday Herald Loser. Do you think there should be a word after "significantly? Do they have a proofreader at that crappy paper? No wonder all the ads they get ar for people who want to buy your gold, sleazy liquor stores and hearing aid stores.
A proposal to significantly Amaral’s Central Market and relocate it just across the street from its 873 Globe St. location in the South End comes before the City Council Tuesday night
I guess you think anonymous commentors don't vote. I guess you think voters in the city aren't informed by reading the blogs.
When you meet people face to face they will be the same people reading the blogs !
Chris,
"Your" original post was written in the first person and signed by you without any credit to the real author. You tweeked Michael Bates' work to include a Fall River theme rather than Tulsa. It is still plagiarism.
Furthermore, I find it really amusing that you started a blog, plugged your blog here, and now "won't be spending time on the blogs." Perhaps you find it easier to lie to a person face to face. I say this because I met you and you lied to me. You took credit for something that you didn't do, I know the truth and I didn't appreciate it. So I agree with the commenter above me, the same people you meet in person are the same one reading the blogs.
SHAMROCK, AKA TIMOTHY BURKE....YOU JUST GOT ATE UP BY THE TWIRLIN WIND.............WATCH OUT TODO!!!!
your not the real estate guy r u?
Why not speak your own mind? If you have somthing to contribute throw it out.
Shamrock and CharlotteDespard are both city workers so they have to be anonymous.
WELL AS SHAMROCK USUALLY RESPONDS HAVEN'T SEEN HIM DO IT YET, I GUESS HE IS FIGURING OUT HOW SOMEONE FOUND OUT WHO HE IS......
0/30/2007 BURKE, TIM
59 MARTHA ST Fall River, MA 02720
Aguiar, Kevin $140.00
Burke, Timothy
59 c Martha St Fall River , MA 02720 Branch Manager
The Mortgage Group Aguiar, Kevin $250.00
Burke, Timothy
59 C Martha St. Fall River, MA 02720 Information Requested
Information Requested Correia, Robert $250.00
AND U SHAMROCK SPEAK SO MUCH ABOUT HOW U LOVE DO DEGRADE OTHERS BUT YOU HAVE MANY SKELETONS IN YOUR CLOSET.
CHARLOTTE DESPARD IS RODRIGUES OOOOOO, FROM WSAR....WELL USE TO BE......
MIKE MIOZZA.....WORKS FOR DOMINION.....GREAT GUY HUH....NO LNG BECAUSE IT WILL AFFECT HIS COMPANY BUILDING THE NEW TWIN SILOS....
POULIN.......LOOK HIM UP SUPPOTER OF CORREIRA MANY TIMES.
LOOK AT WHO DONATES WHERE AND WHAT MOTIVES THEY HAVE NOW...
BASICALLY IT WILL COME TO THIS SEVERAL CANDIDATES RUNNING FOR MAYOR WILL STEAL VOTES......IN THE FINALS CORREIA AND VIVEIROS....THEN THE DIRT ABOUT HER CHAPTER 11 WILL COME OUT.....WINNER CORRIEA.....
YOU SEE NO WONDER SO MUCH ANGER TOWARDS THE MAYOR AND KARAMS...WHY RODRIGUES AKA CHAROLETTE DESPARD....PROBLEM WITH WSAR....
FACE THE FACTS THE KARAMS CONTROL THE CITY.....CORREIA CONTROLS....CITY HALL, SCHOOL DEPARTMENT...KARAMS CONTROL FROED.......YOU SEE ANYONE WHO WANTS TO DO SOMETHING IN THIS CITY CAN'T BECAUSE THE EMPROER WILL KNOCK ANYONE WHO WILL TRY TO OVERTHROW HIM...THATS POLITICS AT ITS BEST....WHAT DO U THINK....SOUND RIGHT ON THE HEAD....HOMERUN MAYBE? PLEASE RESPOND BURKE, PLEASE RESPOND RODRIGUES......
what did we do to merit the return of CAPS GUY?
FACE THE FACTS THE KARAMS CONTROL THE CITY.....CORREIA CONTROLS....CITY
I don't think Bob Correia will successfully attack Viveiros on the bankruptcy issue when Corporation Counsel also filed for bankruptcy.
Finally, I wouldn't mind Correia's dictatorial rule if he could somehow "get the trains to run on time."
BURKE RODRIGUES U ALWAYS SOMETHING TO SAY WHY NOT JUMP INTO THE QUESTIONS AND STATEMENTS I HAVE BROUGHT OUT?
IS IT BECAUSE UR COVER IS BLOWN?
YOU SEE ANYONE WHO WANTS TO DO SOMETHING IN THIS CITY CAN'T BECAUSE THE EMPROER WILL KNOCK ANYONE WHO WILL TRY TO OVERTHROW
Who is the EMPROER?
Is it Todo?
IT AMAZES ME THAT WHEN SHAMROCK AND HIS FRIEND CHARLOTTE WAS IDENTIFIED HE HAS NOT POSTED SINCE....WHAT'S WRONG.....NOTHING TO SAY....YOU ARE ONLY AS STRONG AS YOUR WORDS......THE GAME IS OVER WITH YOU BASHING EVERYONE.....BURKE SPEND MORE TIME SELLING HOMES THAN BLOGGING...YOU MIGHT MAKE A FEW SALES.........RODRIGUES.......SPEAK UP!!!!!!!!YOU ALWAYS HAD A LOT TO SAY....WHY THE SILENCE NOW.......
Who cares, great blog. Hope he dosen't get jumped at the bar: aka "restaurant row" LMAO!
......THE GAME IS OVER WITH YOU BASHING EVERYONE.....BURKE
SILENCE NOW.........
OK whaa..im waiting.?
why would shamrock contribute to correia, I thought shamrock was a sullivan supporter ?
Reverse psychology, that's why.
Maybe Shamrock donated to Correia so that if his identity was ever revealed, he could deny it by pointing to the donation as a means to demonstrate support for Correia and not that he is a Correia basher.
yep that makes sense
Please know that the first thing I would do if my name was in the comments would be to use my almighty power of deletion and erase my name.
Furthmore, while I enjoy my anonymity, I would never donate to Correia (or Aguiar for that matter) to protect it.
hey shamrock your full of sh&t
my,my someone is very upset with shamrock - why ????
SHAMROCK, SHAMROCK, IS FULL OF CROCK
burke is friends with hurricane, so that doesn't make sense.
By the way Mike Miozza doesn't work for Dominion. He works for GTech in Providence RI. Get your facts straight MORON !!!
Shamrock is actually Mike Herren ...
Shamrock is actually Mrs. Robert Correia
Y'know who I feel bad for in all this, is this Timothy Burke guy. Some idiot Hurricaine fans are going to read this, take it as gospel that Tim Burke is "The Shamrock" because someone said it in ALLCAPS. Then Tim will be minding his business someday, walking down the street, and suddenly get sucker-punched and the crap kicked out of him. As he slips into unconciousness while they load him into the ambulance, you can barely hear him say, "I don't get it, what the hell is a "Shamrock"?"
Mike, you need to lay off the coke as it seriously affects your ability to write coherently (although I guess brain damage would do that too). Also, if you expect anyone to believe any of your claims, you need to reveal your sources. Otherwise, I call bullshit on this and chalk it up to the rantings of a sad man on the downswing of another cocaine bender. Sad, man, just....sad...
AnD PLeaSE TeLL mE THAT RODRiGUES ISN;T CHARLOTTE DESPARD...RIGHT? LOL HA HA ......ANY ANSWER FOR THAT ONE DEFEND IT PLEASE SAY THAT IT ISN'T HeR.........YOU CAN SEE HER FACE RIGHT ON RADIO FREEE.....GOOD CLOSE UP...
Yep, you are right on that one too ! HA HA
Who cares about wsar? Why is anyone worried about being beaten up? The station and the people on it are dinosaurs, WGAF?
Shamrock is a guy ... I don't know who you met but that person lied to you ..
There are many people in this city who claim to be who they are not and claim to be responsible for things they are not (Chris Marcellino being one).
There are some of us who know who Shamrock is and will never disclose his identity.
So get over yourself, CAPS GUY. You do not know and never will.
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