tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5011463182147161614.post4630028263975629269..comments2023-10-17T06:24:02.378-04:00Comments on Fall River-tastic: Hypo'christ'yshamrockhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10081731309346415947noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5011463182147161614.post-89908434115156775252009-02-28T17:12:00.000-05:002009-02-28T17:12:00.000-05:00Hmm, well there are a lot of people in public offi...Hmm, well there are a lot of people in public office that act that way right now, FROED/RDA to name a few,.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5011463182147161614.post-39247722065370464962009-02-28T16:49:00.000-05:002009-02-28T16:49:00.000-05:00Acting Mayoral? Acting in a way other than Bob Cor...Acting Mayoral? Acting in a way other than Bob Correia or Steve Camara. Think of the way they act and now think of the opposite and that's acting mayoral. Acting mayoral includes not easily losing your temper and screaming at or over people or cutting off citizens when they try to speak. It also includes when you have a just and righteous argument that you make it without resorting to calling people names or implying that everyone is on the take because they don't see your point of view.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5011463182147161614.post-58548751177335572042009-02-28T10:11:00.000-05:002009-02-28T10:11:00.000-05:00It's funny, there are numerous possible mayoral ca...It's funny, there are numerous possible mayoral candidates and I didn't hear any one of them endorsed through the RDA fiasco but you chose to infer that.<BR/><BR/>Also, I will vote for the best qualified candidate that can stand on their own and not just continue with the status quo. <BR/><BR/>Can someone also define acting "mayoral" ???Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5011463182147161614.post-38592865894363449462009-02-28T01:11:00.000-05:002009-02-28T01:11:00.000-05:00Bottom line, the Redevelopment Authority didn't do...Bottom line, the Redevelopment Authority didn't do its job but using language like you did anon at 5:04 by calling people jerks is basically the same thing that Steve Camara did by suggesting that everyone was on the take. You hurt your cause and make yourself look like a "jerk" when you result to namecalling and making overexaggerated and ridiculous charges. I like Steve Camara but he isn't meant for the mayor's office as this most recent incident illustrated but go ahead and support him even though he is not going to win or go anywhere, it's a free country. I think people have realized we can do better than Bob Correia and will realize that we can do better than Steve Camara as a replacement.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5011463182147161614.post-58053066478078870112009-02-27T07:48:00.000-05:002009-02-27T07:48:00.000-05:00The project does not fit with what the Waterfront/...The project does not fit with what the Waterfront/Downtown plan calls for and it does not fit with what Nick Christ's housing report called for.<BR/><BR/>Think about it, FROED spent big bucks on the RKG report on housing. Why? If you are not going to follow it.<BR/><BR/>The state gave over $500,000 to the city for a Waterfront/Downtown plan. Why? If you are not going to follow it.<BR/><BR/>Several things could have been done.<BR/><BR/>1. Table it. We have the Master PLan coming out. Then the city should have created a "Vision Plan Committee". Give them 6 months. If this does not coincide with reports on the direction of the city, why go forward.<BR/><BR/>The RDA did not do their work.<BR/><BR/>On June 6, 2003 Fiola said on WSAR that the FROED and RDA would create a business plan for 64 Durfee st. I bet that did not happenTom Painehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02033973375820057223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5011463182147161614.post-86389077125883058692009-02-27T07:39:00.000-05:002009-02-27T07:39:00.000-05:00Nick Christ made a decision on a proposal that doe...Nick Christ made a decision on a proposal that doesn't sit well with a lot of people. But his choice was simply to go with the Peabody bid or put it out for another bid. How can anyone reasonably think putting it back out to bid would result in anything different? That is, unless those who don't want Peabody would have preferred the RFP be written in a way to block Peabody. If that happened, how would that "cooked" process be any different than what Peabody opponents are alleging just happened? I wish it had gone differently and another solid bid more respectful of the arts overlay district would have come in. But it didn't. That is not Nick Christ's fault!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5011463182147161614.post-61377995173550725192009-02-27T05:04:00.000-05:002009-02-27T05:04:00.000-05:00The only way Councilor Camara was going to be hear...The only way Councilor Camara was going to be heard over those jerks Amaral and Herren was to raise his voice. Should he have just let them lie lie lie? And other than your attempt to post this message on every link on this blog, how is that relevant to this post?<BR/><BR/>I can't wait to hear what lie Herren is going to come up with today.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5011463182147161614.post-37407167318645455662009-02-27T01:43:00.000-05:002009-02-27T01:43:00.000-05:00I agree with everything you have said Tom Paine bu...I agree with everything you have said Tom Paine but calling into a certain talk show host's radio program and screaming at people, surely we can do better. We need people with level heads to lead us not hotheads like Correia and Camara.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5011463182147161614.post-17100128339814794982009-02-26T21:15:00.000-05:002009-02-26T21:15:00.000-05:00The RKG report is huge, and I do not know if it is...The RKG report is huge, and I do not know if it is available on disk. That question can be given to Ken Fiola. The advisory report is only 3 pages or so long, if Shamrock wants it that is not a problem. Plus one of the comments came from the minutes of the committee meeting. I did mention that.<BR/><BR/>As far as your comments about Steve Camara or any others, whatever they say they have to prove. All I can say that whatever I say I can prove.<BR/><BR/>As far as hatred for Correia, all I can say I do hate what he has done to the city of Fall River. His kangaroo court, his handling of the Fire Chief's position, any many other issues is a sign of incompetence, lack of governing skills, lack of managerial skills etc.<BR/><BR/>His backing of 64 Durfee st, when he himself said we should not warehouse people and was against additional subsidized housing housing, is a sign to me of a man that lacks integrity.Tom Painehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02033973375820057223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5011463182147161614.post-81697874874101153692009-02-26T18:49:00.000-05:002009-02-26T18:49:00.000-05:00I'd love to take a look at them and I'm glad you d...I'd love to take a look at them and I'm glad you did have both of them in front of you Tom Paine, I just wanted to make sure. I am worried that we are all getting so blinded by our hate for Mayor Correia that we are getting off our game. I don't want you pulling a Steve Camara. Steve was either so blinded by his hate or his own ambition that he got played like a fiddle. It would be great if you could somehow get both the RKG report and the Community Advisory Group report up on one of the blogs that way people can see it in black and white and the other side can't spin it. Right now they can just say not to take your word for it or some crap like that, they can't say you are quoting the reports wrong or spinning if it is available for all of us to have right in front of us. A good idea no?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5011463182147161614.post-66160838856692059842009-02-26T18:36:00.000-05:002009-02-26T18:36:00.000-05:00Sorry anon, the quotes are from Nick Christ's comm...Sorry anon, the quotes are from Nick Christ's committee, not the RKG report. Take a look at it, both the RKG and Nick's reports are public record.Tom Painehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02033973375820057223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5011463182147161614.post-82696471828378785482009-02-26T18:02:00.000-05:002009-02-26T18:02:00.000-05:00Are we mixing things up at all? The Community Advi...Are we mixing things up at all? The Community Advisory Group on Public Housing that Mayor Lambert formed and that Nick Christ headed up hired RKG Associates to perform a study on the city's housing stock, a lot of what is quoted seems to be from that report. Then after RKG issued their report the Community Advisory Group issued an opinion/their own report to the Mayor. This was like back in 2000 or 2001 and I think FROED actually paid for the RKG report which may make it hard to get a copy of since they are "private" and who knows if you can get the report from the Community Advisory Group. I would think though that you would need both reports in front of you to make adequate claims about who said what, whether it was RKG saying it or Nick Christ's Community Housing group saying it and/or endorsing what RKG said. Would just be important to get all the facts straight before putting anything out there so that the blog haters don't come back and bite you in the ass.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5011463182147161614.post-32396422263813351532009-02-26T16:55:00.000-05:002009-02-26T16:55:00.000-05:00I have no knowledge of his wife's position or how ...I have no knowledge of his wife's position or how it came to be.<BR/>I think it would be really interesting however to list the positions of many of the wives or partners of the poltical insiders. I get the feeling this case would not be the only one.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5011463182147161614.post-17599153474667732612009-02-26T15:21:00.000-05:002009-02-26T15:21:00.000-05:00Can you also vouch for how his wife got her Hack j...Can you also vouch for how his wife got her Hack job? Seriously though, I have no real issue with Nick Christ, personally. By most accounts he's a nice enough and intelligent guy. But the thugs he works with continue to have their stink rub off on him. Time to find a better class of losers, Nick! And watch out for flying Sucker Punches!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5011463182147161614.post-51007822838953774522009-02-26T15:14:00.000-05:002009-02-26T15:14:00.000-05:00That's great work. I was compiling a similar piece...That's great work. I was compiling a similar piece as it is AMAZING that Nick, whom I respect, allows himslef to be used in this manner. That said, Alan Amaral and he are good business citizens, but I beleive that they both beleive this is the right project while those of us who have seen people in this community used as pawns (remember both vouched for Nick Fischer in September)it opens them up to the perception that they are now getting. Again, these two men are good citizens, have done much for charity and are counted on to support many groups through their personal donations. I can attest to thousands of dollars being given by them and or their companies or both. sadly however the lack of openness in FROED meetings, continued questions regarding their involvement with this project has overshapdwed all fo the true good they have performed in the city of fall river. It is very sad to see them ridiculed and made to be so leacherous when in fact they are btoh people who actually care about fall river but perhaps failed to see how their goal of making the city better, is not always consistent with their best judgement. So again, I do not think they handled this issue well at all. But also think they are much better people than what they are being made out to be and that they do care about Fall River. And yes, tboh have been stlawart supporters of the arts in the city and those like myslef who has been in this arts fight for a long time, think people should not allow all of their work to go unrecognized because this issue has been so poorly conducted.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5011463182147161614.post-48699802704968258882009-02-26T13:25:00.000-05:002009-02-26T13:25:00.000-05:00He actually said to reduce the number around Herit...He actually said to reduce the number around Heritage Heights? What a joker! He pulled a complete 180! Can this man be trusted with the future of the city?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com